I am with Ricardo - I have a few gaps, but not the full range.
On 20 Jun 2022, at 15:28, Ricardo Patara via Procedures procedures@aso.icann.org wrote:
Hi. I just filled the pool. I assume that we could meet sometime during that range. For instance, for me it would be suitable after 10PM UTC.
Thanks
On 20/06/22 10:02, German Valdez Aviles wrote:
Sorry for missing the original request Here is the doodle poll https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/b8qO6lod https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/b8qO6lod German *From: *herve.clement@orange.com herve.clement@orange.com *Date: *Monday, 20 June 2022 at 9:52 pm *To: *procedures@aso.icann.org procedures@aso.icann.org *Cc: *German Valdez Aviles german@apnic.net *Subject: *RE: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members Dear all, Would it be possible to set up a Doodle for the below proposed meeting ? thanks 😊 Hervé Orange Restricted *De :*CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET *Envoyé :* jeudi 16 juin 2022 14:34 *À :* 'Sander Steffann' sander@steffann.nl *Cc :* Ricardo Patara patara@registro.br; German Valdez Aviles german@apnic.net; procedures@aso.icann.org *Objet :* RE: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members Dear all, As James suggested, could be good to have a first one hour meeting next week to launch our work, define global goals and then specific dedicated tasks. German, could you set up a Doodle for that ? (thanks 😊) My availabilities (UTC) Tuesday (21st): from 7 AM to 4 PM Wednesday: from 7 AM to 2 PM Thursday: 7-8 AM Friday: from 7 AM to 10 AM Thanks 😊 Hervé -----Message d'origine----- De : Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl mailto:sander@steffann.nl> Envoyé : mercredi 15 juin 2022 11:00 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> Cc : Ricardo Patara <patara@registro.br mailto:patara@registro.br>; German Valdez Aviles <german@apnic.net mailto:german@apnic.net>; procedures@aso.icann.org mailto:procedures@aso.icann.org Objet : Re: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members Hi all! Just to let you know that I am following this! I'm just traveling too much and getting overloaded a bit, so I'm not responding very often. But: I'm here! Cheers, Sander
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Thanks German! Will start proposing a roadmap before the end of this week. Kind regards Hervé Orange Restricted -----Message d'origine----- De : Procedures <procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org
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Ricardo Patara via Procedures Envoyé : mardi 14 juin 2022 14:47 À : German Valdez Aviles <german@apnic.net mailto:german@apnic.net>; procedures@aso.icann.org
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Hi As suggested I created a section in the private page in the ASO wiki to start working in procedures review. Let me know if you’d like to start to populate the section with any document. You have edit privileges so should able as well to modify it Regards German *From: *Procedures <procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org
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*Subject: *Re: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members Hi. Another topic. I think it should useful to have a section in the Wiki for this work. Right? If agreed, we can ask German to make that thanks On 31/05/22 09:25, herve.clement@orange.com mailto:herve.clement@orange.com wrote:
Dear Ricardo, James, Thanks for your proposals. I tend to agree with you and a complete review would be useful. We can take the opportunity of this initiative energy to go as far as we can. And a remark: yes the quorum issue is solved; I've mentioned it to illustrate my powerpoint and present topics we've discussed. Tomorrow we can present this first list of topics and actions: - review the discussion we had 2 years ago, or so, about some proposed reviews that didn't move forward (I will send to the group these discussions) And more specifically: - Questions around voting processes (adding the concern brought by German) - In-person meetings impossibilities are not taken into account enough - adjust the references in our procedures pointing to MoU. And also remove broken references for templates we never had - add a discussion to review our selection process. Specifically regarding responsibilities of the AC and IC/QRC, timing and agenda preparation I suspect that if we decide to deal with all these previous topics we'll have to redefine the structure of the text. So to optimize the time needed: - List and review all activities individually and collectively (minimise overlaps) Do we propose to answer this last point for our July meeting ? Kind regards Hervé Orange Restricted -----Message d'origine----- De : Procedures <procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org
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Ricardo Patara Envoyé : lundi 30 mai 2022 21:54 À : procedures@aso.icann.org mailto:procedures@aso.icann.org Objet : Re:
[ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures
Review Mailing List Created and Members Hi Everyone. Hope you are all fine. I was thinking that we could start discussing a bit about our goals. Reading Hervé slides we have:
- Questions around voting processes (in this we could add the concern brought by German)
- In-person meetings impossibilities are not taken into account
enough
- 2018 Quorum re-definition to solve the case where 3
representatives of a particular RIR are unable to attend From the above, I think the last one (quorum) is already solved, right? "5.2. Quorum. [...] If all three ASO AC representatives from a particular region are unable to attend an ASO AC meeting, they can specifically request that the meeting is rescheduled, at least 24hrs before the start of the meeting. Unless such a rescheduling request has been received, a quorum of 4 regions will be accepted for the ASO AC
meeting to proceed."
Is this part we are considering or other part of the procedures? And also:
- Fix pointers to updated documents as the ASO MoU and ICANN bylaws
Cf. Kevin’s last year proposal related to procedures section 6 (Global Policy Development) I was reading this document from Kevin and the discussion we had back them. The proposed document tried to address the major "problems", i.e., adjust the references in our procedures pointing to MoU. And also remove broken references for templates we never had. But the discussions highlighted that the complete text in the procedure document was "bad". With grammar errors and sections being not very clear. The idea here would be a complete review and rewrite this section as whole. It think this is an important thing and would not demand considerable time from this group. To that, I would add a discussion to review our selection process. Specifically regarding responsibilities of the AC and IC/QRC, timing and agenda preparation. thanks! regards On 23/05/22 07:42, James Kennedy wrote:
Hi, Thanks for creating this dedicated mailing list German, and for sharing the current procedures Herve. Couple of initial high-level thoughts\suggestions from my side:
- List and review all activities individually and collectively
(minimise overlaps)
- A goal for our review: simplify the procedures where possible,
both process and documentation wise Regards, James On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 5:46 PM <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com
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Dear German,____ __ __ Thanks for your help regarding the creation of this dedicated Procedures Review core team mailing. ____ __ __ I’ll try to summarize this week (if possible) the discussionswe had within the ASO AC on that subject during the 2 or 3 last years.____ If everyone can in // have a look to the current procedures: ASO AC Operating Procedures | The Address Supporting Organization (ASO ICANN)
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*Objet :* [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members____ __ __ Hi____ __ __ This is a new mailing list created for the review of the ASO Procedures____ __ __ Current members are____ __ __ Esteban Lescano – LACNIC____ Herve Clement - RIPE NCC____ James Kennedy - RIPE NCC____ Ricardo Patara – LACNIC____ Sander Steffann - RIPE NCC____ Saul Stein – AFRINIC____ Mike Silber – AFRINIC____ Laureana Pavon – Secretariat____ German Valdez - Secretariat____ __ __ The mailing list has a public archive and only members cansubmit to it.____ __ __ Please let me know of any further adjustment.____ __ __ Regards____ __ __ German____
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