Hello friends, I need some clarity about our (ASO AC) views on appointment to the ICANN Board. Some of the ICANN leaders in the past have stated the need of having outside and independent views in ICANN leadership and mentioned that only limited set of persons have occupied the Board and other leadership position ( ref ICANN_Board page https://icannwiki.org/ICANN_Board). What’s our views on this ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal

Thanks Martin I am likewise on my way out so let me agree with Martin and add a few thoughts: - most ASO appointments have been of people having “outside and independent views” as they come from the number community (the forgotten “N” in ICANN - as ICANN does no number policy work (just rubber stamping global policies the number community develops) it is unlikely that someone from the number community would have a vested interest in naming policy - having served on two nomcoms and on the ICANN board there is a fine balance required of people who have enough knowledge of ICANN that they don’t spend most or all of their 3 year term just learning the ropes and someone who is too deeply embedded so as to be serving their own or other interests while on the board - the ASO appointees have generally been excellent at striking the balance of knowing enough about ICANN to be immediately valuable and not being involved in naming policy so as to be potentially compromised or conflicted - the ICANN nomcom is tasked with balancing the board composition. It is not the ASO’s responsibility to do so As such, I recommend the ASO continues its current approach and does not try introduce additional elements or criteria in its selection process. Regards Mike On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 17:48, Martin Hannigan <hannigan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all, Let me first wish to you an excellent and healthy 2023 year. Thanks Gaurav for your valid question. I cannot thank Martin and Mike via this list anymore for their answers. There are ongoing discussions (within and outside the ASO) to have a balanced Board composition between new members (with fresh and new views) and members with experience, which is also necessary. Coming back to the ASO AC, we try before each election to conduct the best outreach we can to have a set of “good” candidates (taking into account the global technical internet governance model knowledge – naming and numbering – and thinking about diversity – gender, geography, etc. – ). I think we have a “not too bad” process we try to improve continually. Let continue that discussion this year 😊 Regards, Hervé Orange Restricted De : AC-DISCUSS &lt;ac-discuss-bounces(a)aso.icann.org&gt; De la part de Gaurav Kansal Envoyé : mardi 3 janvier 2023 08:13 À : silber.mike(a)gmail.com; hannigan(a)gmail.com Cc : ac-discuss(a)aso.icann.org Objet : Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Operational Procedures Review Thanks Martin and Mike for the detailed explanation. Have a Happy New Year to all. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 31-Dec-2022, at 22:07, silber.mike@gmail.com<mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Martin I am likewise on my way out so let me agree with Martin and add a few thoughts: - most ASO appointments have been of people having “outside and independent views” as they come from the number community (the forgotten “N” in ICANN - as ICANN does no number policy work (just rubber stamping global policies the number community develops) it is unlikely that someone from the number community would have a vested interest in naming policy - having served on two nomcoms and on the ICANN board there is a fine balance required of people who have enough knowledge of ICANN that they don’t spend most or all of their 3 year term just learning the ropes and someone who is too deeply embedded so as to be serving their own or other interests while on the board - the ASO appointees have generally been excellent at striking the balance of knowing enough about ICANN to be immediately valuable and not being involved in naming policy so as to be potentially compromised or conflicted - the ICANN nomcom is tasked with balancing the board composition. It is not the ASO’s responsibility to do so As such, I recommend the ASO continues its current approach and does not try introduce additional elements or criteria in its selection process. Regards Mike On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 17:48, Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com<mailto:hannigan@gmail.com>> wrote: Today is my last day in term as an elected representative from the ARIN region. Thank you all for yet another memorable and productive term, if not very difficult due to the pandemic. The work simply went on. Kudos to all of us. Regrading the below and concluding you mean our appointments, my opinion is that seats 9 and 10 are to address just what you mention, views. But in these cases views of the RIR community. Many have assumed it is our duty to put the best qualified forward. This is true. However, that should be the best quality from the RIR community. Not At-Large, GNSO or random. There is a nom-com and if that process is broken it should be fixed. However the RIR’s have a process that is a privelege and should not be squandered. Many have assumed that the ASO AC appointment was an “Easy” way to circumvent the ICANN nom-com. We usually prove that to be incorrect. Good luck everyone and have an excellent holiday and safe New Year! Warm regards, Martin Hannigan On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:15 PM Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in<mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> wrote: Hello friends, I need some clarity about our (ASO AC) views on appointment to the ICANN Board. Some of the ICANN leaders in the past have stated the need of having outside and independent views in ICANN leadership and mentioned that only limited set of persons have occupied the Board and other leadership position ( ref ICANN_Board page https://icannwiki.org/ICANN_Board). What’s our views on this ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 30-Dec-2022, at 17:50, ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> wrote: Hi Hervé. Thanks for the summary. I think it covers discussions we have had very well. Wish you and all the group and relatives a happy festivities for the new year. Best regards, On 29/12/22 15:39, herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> wrote: Dear all, I hope you’re doing well. According to the Action Item 221207-1, I’ve tried to gather in a single document all the recommendations developed by the Review Team, sorted by topic (thanks to everyone). This file can serve as a basis for the early ASO AC 2023 discussions to elaborate an updated operational procedures version. Have a good end of year. 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Dear Gaurav and AC colleagues, I know not many non-AC members say something on this list, but I think my input would be helpful for the discussion among AC members. "The need of having outside and independent views in ICANN leadership" has recently addressed by NomCom2 Review Implementation plan which the ICANN Board ratified in the public board meeting in Cancun.  The resolution and the final report are below: Resolution (in its 2-b): https://www.icann.org/en/board-activities-and-meetings/materials/approved-r… Report: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom2-review-final-report-30j… My  understanding of this is NomCom Review 2 team had some concerns on many "usual suspects" occupied the NomCom Appointee seats and they preferred have more NCAs who are not Usual Suspect but indepemdent and have been away from the involvement in ICANN activities.  That is the reason why now NomCom is appointing three "unaffiliated directors". I am not sure if there is any linkage, but the recent appointees to the board, Sajid Rahman and Chris Chapman are quite unaffiliated. I think there are some tendency that ICANN community members try to take another position after he/she stepped down from a position, which I guess brings a perspective of the limited set of people occupy the seat.  However it is not so apparent.  ICANN Board members have the term limit of three terms/nine years.  It is actually preferred that a board members serve there longer because the experience is quite helpful for the board business. However I respect the unwritten rule that ASO Appointees better step down with two terms.  Number business is integral part of ICANN as IANA operator, but very few business for Numbers there at ICANN Board.  So ASO appointees are regarded quite independent from TLD business, which is precious. I hope this helps you Gaurav for your consideration. All the Best, Akinori, former ASO Appointee to the ICANN Board On 2022/12/31 13:15, Gaurav Kansal wrote:

Hi All, Many thanks Herve for compiling the recommendations into a single document! I have read through and added some comments. Please find attached. Regards, James On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 7:39 PM &lt;herve.clement(a)orange.com&gt; wrote:

Dear German, Thanks for the reminder. Regarding the December minutes : * Attendees : James has been able to join during the meeting * Page 6 * (§ 9: 2023 ASO AC Chair Election Schedule): Voting open January 3rd (and not the 2nd) * At the beginning of § 10: Kevin B. and not Kevon B. * End of page 8, last but one §: "should be asking for for...." * Page 9: 3rd § of chapter 14: AfriNIC and not APNIC Best, Hervé Orange Restricted De : AC-DISCUSS &lt;ac-discuss-bounces(a)aso.icann.org&gt; De la part de German Valdez Aviles Envoyé : lundi 2 janvier 2023 10:26 À : ac-discuss(a)aso.icann.org Objet : [AC-DISCUSS] FW: Minutes: ASO AC 7 December 2022 Teleconference Dear ASO AC A reminder of minutes and open action subject for review in our meeting next week. Regards German Valdez From: German Valdez Aviles <german@apnic.net<mailto:german@apnic.net>> Date: Friday, 9 December 2022 at 5:27 pm To: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Subject: Minutes: ASO AC 7 December 2022 Teleconference Dear ASO AC Here is the minutes and updated open action list of this week teleconference Updated Action Item 221025-2: Esteban L., James K, and Jorge V. to start working on the ASOA AC slide deck for ICANN 76. New Action Item 221207-1: All ASO AC members will have two weeks to review the proposals shared by the Procedures Review Team so that the Team can consolidate a Procedures Review document to work on in early 2023. New Action Item 221207-2: German V. to circulate the proposed 2023 ASO AC meeting schedule to incoming members. Barring any concerns, the schedule will be approved as of 20 December. New Action Item 221207-3: German V. to prepare the schedule for the 2023 NomCom appointment, which needs to be approved in January 2023. Regards German _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.