Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal Disclaimer: This e-mail and its attachments may contain official Indian Government information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. The responsibility lies with the recipient to check this email and any attachment for the presence of viruses.
Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I'm not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal [https://email.gov.in/videos/images/75.jpg]<https://amritmahotsav.nic.in/>[https://email.gov.in/videos/images/g202d.jpg]<https://www.g20.org/> Disclaimer: This e-mail and its attachments may contain official Indian Government information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. The responsibility lies with the recipient to check this email and any attachment for the presence of viruses. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.
Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote:
Dear Gaurav,
Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects.
Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun.
Regards
Hervé
Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members,
As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available.
I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ?
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
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HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal Disclaimer: This e-mail and its attachments may contain official Indian Government information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. The responsibility lies with the recipient to check this email and any attachment for the presence of viruses. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _______________________________________________ AC-DISCUSS mailing list - Workspace for ASO AC operations. Posting is restricted, archive is publicly available. AC-DISCUSS@aso.icann.org https://aso.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ac-discuss
Hi All Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter. Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN. Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc. So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives. However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope. Regards German From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Ffellowship-selection-committee&data=05%7C01%7C%7C2f137b2e5297475166b708daf804a1d1%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C638094996473175604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=It%2F5owYlkp%2BBMVOIu1phrMIqOk502bvEORnKJw0TBpA%3D&reserved=0> , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? 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Thanks Jorge and German for your useful answer and information. I propose to have a discussion on that topic with the NRO EC in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : German Valdez Aviles <german@apnic.net> Envoyé : mercredi 18 janvier 2023 02:43 À : Jorge Villa <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>; Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in>; CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com> Cc : ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi All Before all, and to be clear I don't speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter. Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN. Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc. So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives. However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn't be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope. Regards German From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in<mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a "parallel world" named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That's why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number's community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in<mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten 'N' of ICANN , so why don't we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I'm not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in<mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org<mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Ffellowship-selection-committee&data=05%7C01%7C%7C2f137b2e5297475166b708daf804a1d1%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C638094996473175604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=It%2F5owYlkp%2BBMVOIu1phrMIqOk502bvEORnKJw0TBpA%3D&reserved=0> , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? 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Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN. I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting. Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote:
Hi All
Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter.
Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN.
Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc.
So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives.
However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope.
Regards
German
From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
HI Gaurav, how are you?
Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested.
A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community
If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting.
Regards, Jorge
De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Hi Herve,
Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> wrote:
Dear Gaurav,
Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects.
Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun.
Regards
Hervé
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I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ?
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
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Hi Gaurav Maybe I’m wrong, but my perception about it, is that the Selection Committee don’t have any further relationship with the fellows. ICANN has a great organization of its program, and they have a selection process for the people who will be acting as mentors. Regards, Jorge De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 5:26 a. m. Para: <german@apnic.net> CC: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN. I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote: Hi All Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter. Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN. Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc. So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives. However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope. Regards German From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. 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Hello Jorge, ICANN has both "ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee” and "ICANN Fellowship Program Mentoring” and unfortunately we are not participating in any of them. By mentoring program, we can have further relationship with fellows. Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:05, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote:
Hi Gaurav
Maybe I’m wrong, but my perception about it, is that the Selection Committee don’t have any further relationship with the fellows. ICANN has a great organization of its program, and they have a selection process for the people who will be acting as mentors.
Regards, Jorge
De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 5:26 a. m. Para: <german@apnic.net> CC: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN.
I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote:
Hi All
Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter.
Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN.
Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc.
So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives.
However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope.
Regards
German
From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
HI Gaurav, how are you?
Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested.
A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community
If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting.
Regards, Jorge
De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Hi Herve,
Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> wrote:
Dear Gaurav,
Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects.
Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun.
Regards
Hervé
Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
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I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ?
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
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Hi Gaurav If my memory is still working fine, we have been invited previously to the Selection Committee only, not to the Program Mentoring. It makes sense because the main focus on ICANN are the Names, and unfortunately, it's not our expertise area. Regards, Jorge De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 9:03 a. m. Para: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> CC: <german@apnic.net>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hello Jorge, ICANN has both "ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee” and "ICANN Fellowship Program Mentoring” and unfortunately we are not participating in any of them. By mentoring program, we can have further relationship with fellows. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:05, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote: Hi Gaurav Maybe I’m wrong, but my perception about it, is that the Selection Committee don’t have any further relationship with the fellows. ICANN has a great organization of its program, and they have a selection process for the people who will be acting as mentors. Regards, Jorge De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 5:26 a. m. Para: <german@apnic.net> CC: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN. I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote: Hi All Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter. Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN. Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc. So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives. However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope. Regards German From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. 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This is now creating confusion. Whether we were not invited or we ourself decided not to participate ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:48, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote:
Hi Gaurav
If my memory is still working fine, we have been invited previously to the Selection Committee only, not to the Program Mentoring. It makes sense because the main focus on ICANN are the Names, and unfortunately, it's not our expertise area.
Regards, Jorge
De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 9:03 a. m. Para: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> CC: <german@apnic.net>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Hello Jorge,
ICANN has both "ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee” and "ICANN Fellowship Program Mentoring” and unfortunately we are not participating in any of them. By mentoring program, we can have further relationship with fellows.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:05, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote:
Hi Gaurav
Maybe I’m wrong, but my perception about it, is that the Selection Committee don’t have any further relationship with the fellows. ICANN has a great organization of its program, and they have a selection process for the people who will be acting as mentors.
Regards, Jorge
De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 5:26 a. m. Para: <german@apnic.net> CC: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN.
I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote:
Hi All
Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter.
Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN.
Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc.
So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives.
However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope.
Regards
German
From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
HI Gaurav, how are you?
Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested.
A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community
If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting.
Regards, Jorge
De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org>> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org>> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
Hi Herve,
Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means.
Regards, Gaurav Kansal
On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> wrote:
Dear Gaurav,
Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects.
Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun.
Regards
Hervé
Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in <mailto:gaurav.kansal@nic.in>> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com <mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <mailto:ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee
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Hi Gaurav As I remember, We never have received an invitation for the Program Mentoring. If we have declined our participation has been for the Selection Committee (that usually (as for other selection committee) invites to all the ICANN constituencies). Regards, Jorge. De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: jueves, 19 de enero de 2023, 4:42 a. m. Para: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> CC: <german@apnic.net>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee This is now creating confusion. Whether we were not invited or we ourself decided not to participate ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:48, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote: Hi Gaurav If my memory is still working fine, we have been invited previously to the Selection Committee only, not to the Program Mentoring. It makes sense because the main focus on ICANN are the Names, and unfortunately, it's not our expertise area. Regards, Jorge De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 9:03 a. m. Para: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu> CC: <german@apnic.net>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hello Jorge, ICANN has both "ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee” and "ICANN Fellowship Program Mentoring” and unfortunately we are not participating in any of them. By mentoring program, we can have further relationship with fellows. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 19:05, villa@reduniv.edu.cu wrote: Hi Gaurav Maybe I’m wrong, but my perception about it, is that the Selection Committee don’t have any further relationship with the fellows. ICANN has a great organization of its program, and they have a selection process for the people who will be acting as mentors. Regards, Jorge De: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: miércoles, 18 de enero de 2023, 5:26 a. m. Para: <german@apnic.net> CC: <villa@reduniv.edu.cu>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com>, <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Thanks German for sharing your thoughts. I was wondering that fellowship selection and mentor committee will help us as ASO AC representative shall be in a position to help and mentor the fellow who is from RIR and number community. By not participating in these programs, I think we are loosing the opportunity of mentoring number community and help them in effective participation in ICANN. I completely agrees with Herve’s views of discussion on this in Cancun meeting. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 18-Jan-2023, at 07:13, german@apnic.net wrote: Hi All Before all, and to be clear I don’t speak on behalf of the NRO EC this is more a personal opinion on this matter. Indeed, as Hervé mentioned it has been a solid position from the NRO EC that the ASO keeps his activities strictly related to numbering related activities in ICANN. Most of the ICANN activities are names related so for the above mention reason the NRO EC has politely decline the participation on such names related activities, committees, program etc. So far the ASO has been mostly involved in the appointment of ICANN board and NomCom representatives. However, I believe the NRO EC wouldn’t be closed to the involvement of the ASO or ASO AC members in new ICANN initiatives if this fits in the ASO scope. Regards German From: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> on behalf of Jorge Villa via AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2023 at 7:00 am To: Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in>, Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> Cc: ac-discuss@aso.icann.org <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee HI Gaurav, how are you? Hervé is right in his memories about this issue. As you know, We are a very small group, and a few years ago, we started to receive multiple invitations to participate in committees and groups within ICANN. It became hard to fulfill all of these requests because the options were: 1- one of us had to be serving 2- someone from the RIR communities had to be appointed. In the majority of the situations, we never had enough time to do an effective outreach process to find someone interested. A great difference between ASO and other ICANN constituencies is that we live in a “parallel world” named RIRs and they do all their jobs inside ICANN. Many of us are really involved in our RIR communities and the ICANN committees and groups demand a workload (a little bit heavy in some cases). That’s why we try to focus on topics directly related with the number’s community If you feel that we might review our decision, as Hervé suggested, we should try to talk about it in our F2F meeting. Regards, Jorge De: AC-DISCUSS <ac-discuss-bounces@aso.icann.org> en nombre de Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Fecha: lunes, 16 de enero de 2023, 4:09 a. m. Para: Herve Clement <herve.clement@orange.com> CC: <ac-discuss@aso.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [AC-DISCUSS] Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Hi Herve, Thanks for the response. As one of the member has already pointed out in past discussions, that ASO AC represents the forgotten ’N’ of ICANN , so why don’t we participate in these committees and helps the broader Number community to actively participating in ICANN through fellowship and other means. Regards, Gaurav Kansal On 16-Jan-2023, at 14:23, herve.clement@orange.com wrote: Dear Gaurav, Thanks for your question. The decision not to participate to the ICANN fellowship selection committee (and the Community Excellence Award Selection Panel as well) was agreed in accordance with the NRO EC, if I’m not mistaken. The ASO AC activities are dedicated to specifically addressing aspects. Will be happy to discuss this point in-person in Cancun. Regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Gaurav Kansal <gaurav.kansal@nic.in> Envoyé : samedi 14 janvier 2023 08:25 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com>; ac-discuss@aso.icann.org Objet : Reg - ICANN Fellowship Selection Committee Dear Herve and fellow ASO Members, As per info available here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-selection-committee , every ASO shall nominate one representative to serve on the ICANN fellowship selection committee. As info available on the said page, ASO is not participating in this committee from ICANN 65 onwards (at least from ICANN 65). Information prior to ICANN 65 is not clearly available. I am wondering why we are not participating in this committee ? Regards, Gaurav Kansal Disclaimer: This e-mail and its attachments may contain official Indian Government information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. 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Gaurav Kansal -
German Valdez Aviles -
herve.clement＠orange.com -
Jorge Villa