TR: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Dear all, Tell me if you're interested in this presentation? Best regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl<mailto:j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl>> Envoyé : dimanche 12 mars 2023 14:51 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc : Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se<mailto:hortense.jongen@gu.se>> Objet : RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies Good morning, Hervé Just a reminder - I know things get very hectic at ICANN meetings. Attached is a very short presentation of our ICANN results - 10 minutes - that we have given to a couple of other constituencies. The presentation basically covers (1) why is legitimacy important; (2) how much legitimacy does ICANN have; (3) what are the main factors that shape legitimacy beliefs at ICANN Or if we could very briefly tell ASO about our RIR study, so that we can be transparent about that work. But only if there is time, of course. Greetings Jan From: Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) Sent: vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:57 To: herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> Subject: RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies Merci! From: herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com> <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Sent: vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:56 To: Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl<mailto:j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl>> Cc: Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se<mailto:hortense.jongen@gu.se>> Subject: RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies Dear Jan, Thanks for your email. And yes I remember perfectly. Let me check and I'm coming back to you tomorrow. Best regards Hervé Orange Restricted De : Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl<mailto:j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl>> Envoyé : vendredi 10 mars 2023 17:09 À : CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com<mailto:herve.clement@orange.com>> Cc : Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se<mailto:hortense.jongen@gu.se>> Objet : icann and rir legitimacy studies Dear Hervé Greetings from ICANN76 where I have just registered. I believe we last met before the pandemic at ICANN's Montreal meeting, where Hortense Jongen and I presented some preliminary results of our ICANN legitimacy study. I recall your lively interest. Two quick things now. First, you may have seen that Hortense and I now have a full analysis of ICANN legitimacy available for presentation. We circulated a PPT via David Olive's office a few days ago. Would you like us to give this presentation to ASO? We could introduce it briefly during one of your sessions at the Cancun meeting on Monday or Tuesday? Then if interested we could do a fuller webinar for you at a later date? Second, Hortense and I now do a similar study of levels and drivers of legitimacy for the South-based RIRs (AFRINIC, APNIC, LACNIC). We could briefly introduce the study to your ASO meeting at Cancun, so that you know a little more about what we are doing? We are already working closely with Oscar, Paul and the AFRINIC secretariat. Let us know if it works to speak briefly to your ASO meeting on Monday or Tuesday? Many thanks and hope to see you Jan * * * * * * * * * * * * * Professor Jan Aart Scholte Chair, Global Transformations and Governance Challenges Institute of Political Science and Institute of Security and Global Affairs Leiden University scholteja@vuw.leidenuniv.nl<mailto:scholteja@vuw.leidenuniv.nl> https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/staffmembers/jan-aart-scholte#tab-1<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.universiteitleiden.nl%2Fen%2Fstaffmembers%2Fjan-aart-scholte%23tab-1&data=05%7C01%7Cj.a.scholte%40fsw.leidenuniv.nl%7C4a84ec0a51054e88d20f08db23014210%7Cca2a7f76dbd74ec091086b3d524fb7c8%7C0%7C0%7C638142260543365973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Fmwlfqwjk6h9WAeIn6U7CqNs4fo1S1%2F9FDsUgqfeQoo%3D&reserved=0> Co-Director, Centre for Global Cooperation Research University of Duisburg-Essen scholte@gcr21.uni-due.de<mailto:scholte@gcr21.uni-due.de> https://www.gcr21.org/the-centre/team-gcr21/directors/prof-dr-jan-aart-scholte<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gcr21.org%2Fthe-centre%2Fteam-gcr21%2Fdirectors%2Fprof-dr-jan-aart-scholte&data=05%7C01%7Cj.a.scholte%40fsw.leidenuniv.nl%7C4a84ec0a51054e88d20f08db23014210%7Cca2a7f76dbd74ec091086b3d524fb7c8%7C0%7C0%7C638142260543522214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Ml6TxEHNXU8zPba6xm9QAJycvo4uQR%2FqEKpKESSJilc%3D&reserved=0> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Hi Herve, Thanks for the suggestions. I would be interested in hearing both presentations, if time permits. Regards, James On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 09:03, <herve.clement@orange.com> wrote:
Dear all,
Tell me if you’re interested in this presentation?
Best regards
Hervé
Orange Restricted
*De :* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Envoyé :* dimanche 12 mars 2023 14:51 *À :* CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com> *Cc :* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Objet :* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Good morning, Hervé
Just a reminder – I know things get very hectic at ICANN meetings.
Attached is a very short presentation of our ICANN results – 10 minutes – that we have given to a couple of other constituencies.
The presentation basically covers (1) why is legitimacy important; (2) how much legitimacy does ICANN have; (3) what are the main factors that shape legitimacy beliefs at ICANN
Or if we could very briefly tell ASO about our RIR study, so that we can be transparent about that work.
But only if there is time, of course.
Greetings
Jan
*From:* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) *Sent:* vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:57 *To:* herve.clement@orange.com *Subject:* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Merci!
*From:* herve.clement@orange.com <herve.clement@orange.com> *Sent:* vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:56 *To:* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Cc:* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Subject:* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Dear Jan,
Thanks for your email.
And yes I remember perfectly.
Let me check and I’m coming back to you tomorrow.
Best regards
Hervé
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*De :* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Envoyé :* vendredi 10 mars 2023 17:09 *À :* CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com> *Cc :* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Objet :* icann and rir legitimacy studies
Dear Hervé
Greetings from ICANN76 where I have just registered.
I believe we last met before the pandemic at ICANN’s Montreal meeting, where Hortense Jongen and I presented some preliminary results of our ICANN legitimacy study. I recall your lively interest.
Two quick things now. First, you may have seen that Hortense and I now have a full analysis of ICANN legitimacy available for presentation. We circulated a PPT via David Olive’s office a few days ago. Would you like us to give this presentation to ASO? We could introduce it briefly during one of your sessions at the Cancun meeting on Monday or Tuesday? Then if interested we could do a fuller webinar for you at a later date?
Second, Hortense and I now do a similar study of levels and drivers of legitimacy for the South-based RIRs (AFRINIC, APNIC, LACNIC). We could briefly introduce the study to your ASO meeting at Cancun, so that you know a little more about what we are doing? We are already working closely with Oscar, Paul and the AFRINIC secretariat.
Let us know if it works to speak briefly to your ASO meeting on Monday or Tuesday?
Many thanks and hope to see you
Jan
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Professor Jan Aart Scholte
Chair, Global Transformations and Governance Challenges
Institute of Political Science and Institute of Security and Global Affairs
Leiden University
scholteja@vuw.leidenuniv.nl
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Hi,
Thanks for the suggestions. I would be interested in hearing both presentations, if time permits.
+1 The content of the main legitimacy presentation seems to be more names than numbers oriented, but the legitimacy for the South-based RIRs content is highly relevant! Cheers, Sander
It's definitely interesting to me. Nick On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:03 AM <herve.clement@orange.com> wrote:
Dear all,
Tell me if you’re interested in this presentation?
Best regards
Hervé
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*De :* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Envoyé :* dimanche 12 mars 2023 14:51 *À :* CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com> *Cc :* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Objet :* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Good morning, Hervé
Just a reminder – I know things get very hectic at ICANN meetings.
Attached is a very short presentation of our ICANN results – 10 minutes – that we have given to a couple of other constituencies.
The presentation basically covers (1) why is legitimacy important; (2) how much legitimacy does ICANN have; (3) what are the main factors that shape legitimacy beliefs at ICANN
Or if we could very briefly tell ASO about our RIR study, so that we can be transparent about that work.
But only if there is time, of course.
Greetings
Jan
*From:* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) *Sent:* vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:57 *To:* herve.clement@orange.com *Subject:* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Merci!
*From:* herve.clement@orange.com <herve.clement@orange.com> *Sent:* vrijdag 10 maart 2023 20:56 *To:* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Cc:* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Subject:* RE: icann and rir legitimacy studies
Dear Jan,
Thanks for your email.
And yes I remember perfectly.
Let me check and I’m coming back to you tomorrow.
Best regards
Hervé
Orange Restricted
*De :* Scholte, J.A. (Jan Aart) <j.a.scholte@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> *Envoyé :* vendredi 10 mars 2023 17:09 *À :* CLEMENT Herve INNOV/NET <herve.clement@orange.com> *Cc :* Hortense Jongen <hortense.jongen@gu.se> *Objet :* icann and rir legitimacy studies
Dear Hervé
Greetings from ICANN76 where I have just registered.
I believe we last met before the pandemic at ICANN’s Montreal meeting, where Hortense Jongen and I presented some preliminary results of our ICANN legitimacy study. I recall your lively interest.
Two quick things now. First, you may have seen that Hortense and I now have a full analysis of ICANN legitimacy available for presentation. We circulated a PPT via David Olive’s office a few days ago. Would you like us to give this presentation to ASO? We could introduce it briefly during one of your sessions at the Cancun meeting on Monday or Tuesday? Then if interested we could do a fuller webinar for you at a later date?
Second, Hortense and I now do a similar study of levels and drivers of legitimacy for the South-based RIRs (AFRINIC, APNIC, LACNIC). We could briefly introduce the study to your ASO meeting at Cancun, so that you know a little more about what we are doing? We are already working closely with Oscar, Paul and the AFRINIC secretariat.
Let us know if it works to speak briefly to your ASO meeting on Monday or Tuesday?
Many thanks and hope to see you
Jan
* * * * * * * * * * * * *
Professor Jan Aart Scholte
Chair, Global Transformations and Governance Challenges
Institute of Political Science and Institute of Security and Global Affairs
Leiden University
scholteja@vuw.leidenuniv.nl
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James Kennedy -
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Sander Steffann