Thanks German!
Will start proposing a roadmap before the end of this week.
Kind regards
Hervé
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-----Message d'origine----- De : Procedures procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org De la part de Ricardo Patara via Procedures Envoyé : mardi 14 juin 2022 14:47 À : German Valdez Aviles german@apnic.net; procedures@aso.icann.org Objet : Re: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members
thanks German!
regards,
On 14/06/22 00:44, German Valdez Aviles wrote:
Hi
As suggested I created a section in the private page in the ASO wiki to start working in procedures review.
Let me know if you’d like to start to populate the section with any document.
You have edit privileges so should able as well to modify it
Regards
German
*From: *Procedures procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org on behalf of Ricardo Patara patara@registro.br *Date: *Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 11:55 pm *To: *procedures@aso.icann.org procedures@aso.icann.org *Subject: *Re: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members
Hi.
Another topic. I think it should useful to have a section in the Wiki for this work. Right?
If agreed, we can ask German to make that
thanks
On 31/05/22 09:25, herve.clement@orange.com wrote:
Dear Ricardo, James,
Thanks for your proposals. I tend to agree with you and a complete review would be useful. We can take the opportunity of this initiative energy to go as far as we can. And a remark: yes the quorum issue is solved; I've mentioned it to illustrate my powerpoint and present topics we've discussed.
Tomorrow we can present this first list of topics and actions: - review the discussion we had 2 years ago, or so, about some proposed reviews that didn't move forward (I will send to the group these discussions) And more specifically: - Questions around voting processes (adding the concern brought by German) - In-person meetings impossibilities are not taken into account enough - adjust the references in our procedures pointing to MoU. And also remove broken references for templates we never had - add a discussion to review our selection process. Specifically regarding responsibilities of the AC and IC/QRC, timing and agenda preparation
I suspect that if we decide to deal with all these previous topics we'll have to redefine the structure of the text. So to optimize the time needed: - List and review all activities individually and collectively (minimise overlaps)
Do we propose to answer this last point for our July meeting ?
Kind regards
Hervé
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-----Message d'origine----- De : Procedures procedures-bounces@aso.icann.org De la part de Ricardo Patara Envoyé : lundi 30 mai 2022 21:54 À : procedures@aso.icann.org Objet : Re: [ASO-PROCEDURES] ASO Procedures Review Mailing List Created and Members
Hi Everyone. Hope you are all fine.
I was thinking that we could start discussing a bit about our goals.
Reading Hervé slides we have:
- Questions around voting processes
(in this we could add the concern brought by German)
- In-person meetings impossibilities are not taken into account
enough
- 2018 Quorum re-definition to solve the case where 3 representatives
of a particular RIR are unable to attend
From the above, I think the last one (quorum) is already solved, right?
"5.2. Quorum.
[...] If all three ASO AC representatives from a particular region are unable to attend an ASO AC meeting, they can specifically request that the meeting is rescheduled, at least 24hrs before the start of the meeting. Unless such a rescheduling request has been received, a quorum of 4 regions will be accepted for the ASO AC
meeting to proceed."
Is this part we are considering or other part of the procedures?
And also:
- Fix pointers to updated documents as the ASO MoU and ICANN bylaws
Cf. Kevin’s last year proposal related to procedures section 6 (Global Policy Development)
I was reading this document from Kevin and the discussion we had back them. The proposed document tried to address the major "problems", i.e., adjust the references in our procedures pointing to MoU. And also remove broken references for templates we never had.
But the discussions highlighted that the complete text in the procedure document was "bad". With grammar errors and sections being not very clear.
The idea here would be a complete review and rewrite this section as whole.
It think this is an important thing and would not demand considerable time from this group.
To that, I would add a discussion to review our selection process. Specifically regarding responsibilities of the AC and IC/QRC, timing and agenda preparation.
thanks! regards
On 23/05/22 07:42, James Kennedy wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for creating this dedicated mailing list German, and for sharing the current procedures Herve.
Couple of initial high-level thoughts\suggestions from my side:
- List and review all activities individually and collectively
(minimise overlaps)
- A goal for our review: simplify the procedures where possible,
both process and documentation wise
Regards, James
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This is a new mailing list created for the review of the ASO Procedures____
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